Relationships

Join Meg and Grady with their favorite guest host Agata Zachary for some Christmas cheer, inspiration, and a little venting. This week they explore the ups and downs of relationships, with advice on socializing with strangers, handling “energy vampires,” coping with setbacks, and being true to yourself when the world says otherwise. Grab a cup of coffee (or tea) and spend some time hanging out with friends as they tackle the challenges of love and work.

Transcript

Meg: Hello, Lovelies. Welcome back to In the Grind with Meg and Grady. I'm Meagan Ryana. 

Grady: I am Grady Marin. 

Meg: And today we're joined by Agata Zachary, who is frequently featured in our podcast.  

Grady: Hello, Agata! 

Agata: Hey.

Meg: Hey. 

Agata: How is everybody doing today? 

Meg: We are back in our powerful trio to bring you some spirit and magic on Christmas Eve— 

Grady: And hyped up by coffee. 

Meg: Yes. Maybe as the kids are tucked into bed waiting for Santa and his reindeer, or maybe on waiting on Miss Claus, Mrs. Claus, to bring some remedies or baked goods to your house. If Mr., Claus is sick with the virus this year, or whatever your case may be, we hope that today's podcast brings you peace, smiles and happiness. 

Agata: Hey guys, don't forget to hit follow and subscribe. 

Meg: Oh my God, it's so nice to be home with the family and friends this year on the holidays. I actually like feel like I have everything I want, but the only, yeah, the only thing I actually fantasize about on Christmas is like sometime in the future, when we're able to travel again, I want to do something like nontraditional and take a vacation in Mexico or somewhere exotic with the people I love. That would be a dream Christmas for me. I kind of miss palm trees and lights on Christmas. 

Grady: Well, if you go to El Mariachi in Hamilton they actually have 'em outside. 

Agata: That's a restaurant, a Mexican restaurant. 

Meg: I love Mexican food. Tacos are my favorite. 

Grady: They’ve got great palm trees. They just put 'em outside.  

Meg: Oh, I'm going! 

Grady: They’re lit up too. 

Agata: Meagan, there would be a colored trip to Mexico right here, locally in Ohio. 

Grady: And you can get social distanced because we'll just make sure that, since my husband's family has that restaurant, they clear it out before you get there. 

Meg: Oh my gosh, oh, I feel so special. 

Agata: Oh yeah. 

Grady: You're always special. 

Meg: Papacito’s gonna put the red carpet down. Yeah, well you guys, I hope that today's podcast brings you peace, smiles and happiness, so as Agata said, don't forget to subscribe. 

Agata: Yep, don't forget. 

Grady: And today I think that we're going to talk predominantly about relationships and what gets your grind, otherwise chaps your *** or gets your goat. No comment, Meagan! 

Meg: I'm just gonna say, I mean I like chaps for my *** but my *** has never been chapped. 

Grady: That's OK. You're not missing out on anything. 

Meg: What does that mean, like, what ****** you off? What chaps your ***? 

Agata: What makes you angry. 

Grady: Yeah, and I think there's a lot for us to talk about when we get to that topic, but let's start with relationships. 

Meg: Oh God, you guys probably know a lot more about relationships than I do. 

Agata: Like well, let me ask you guys then, how do you feel about people we call energy vampires? 

Grady: We have a lot of those, at times. I think everyone does. 

Agata: Vampires. 

Meg: Oh, I'm getting dizzy already. 

Agata: Yeah, they come and suck your energy out, right? 

Grady: We were just talking earlier, actually, before we got here and in the car that Meagan is just such a free spirit. She brings a lot of laughter, energy and positive energy into an environment, and room, and for some reason, and this happens very frequently with people, when you have that much positive energy and influence, for some reason, it attracts a lot of darkness, a lot of energy that's being sucked from you, and it can drain you. I was just telling her that she surrounds herself, or has, with people that actually drain her positive energy. 

Agata: Do you feel that way, Meagan? 

Meg: Yeah guys, it was probably because I was anointed by the angels when I was little. 

Grady: Oooh. 

Agata: What? What's the sorry? 

Meg: Well, when I was little, I grew up on a farm right now, uh, and I remember I got **** on while standing under a tree by a black snake. Yeah, I was **** on by a, pooped on, by a snake. 

Agata: Are you sure it wasn't like venom he spit at you? 

Grady: It was a poopton snake.  

Meg: Listen guys, snakes **** a lot! 

Agata: Poopton! 

Meg: Not many people can say that, right? So yeah, it was actually pretty devastating. I remember like squalling, and my mom took off my ****** shirt-- 

Agata: Was it a lot? 

Meg: Yes! 

Agata: And did it stink? 

Meg: Yes. And then she took off my shirt. She told me that I had been anointed by the angels, and that it was going to bring me good luck, and I actually believed her because you know your parents are supposed to lie to you or anything. 

Agata: Yeah, well, you know how they tell every time, like if a bird flies by and ***** on you it'’s supposed to bring you good luck, yeah? 

Meg: Yeah 

Grady: Oh please don't ever do that. I don't need that luck from a bird. 

Agata: Yeah, but think about it though. This falls from heaven on you, so it's easy to get on you sometimes, depending where you are, but getting **** on by a snake, I mean he had to like stick his *** up to poop on you. 

Grady: I've actually never heard of any such thing. This is actually, wow.  

So relationships. I think that we've all experienced relationships, whether it be with a partner or a friend, and, you know, I was just thinking, and someone had told me this once, that relationships have an expiration date. Not all relationships, but do you ever feel like relationships have just taken their turn? 

Agata: Yep  

Grady: And that there's a time and a place for it to end. 

Meg: I believe that people come into your life at the right moment. You know it's like a cycle. 

Agata: Yeah, to either teach you something or show you something. You know, if you think about it—because my kid plays a lot of games, right—and those games got levels, and I think we're all in the same game. And sometimes some of our friends get stuck on the level behind us ,or we get stuck and they go forward. Sometimes you gotta take a step back and let your friends be in the level and get through what they're getting through. It’s not to be, at the moment, for you guys to connect. 

Grady: Yeah, and I think at least my experience has been with my relationships where I've had some very close relationships with what I would have perceived to be my best friends and those relationships were catastrophic and toxic at times, where I, for whatever reason, don't understand why they took the turn that they did, but they ended up in a place that I would have never thought that they would end. And it was very dark time for me. I gained a lot of weight, almost 100 pounds. I had high cholesterol, high blood pressure. 

Agata: Because you were that depressed over that stuff? 

Grady: Yeah, and unfortunately it went down a path where there sere some adversarial settings that it's just like a divorce. You have to separate yourself, and a lot of times when you have best friends, you get into a business situation or a partnership of sorts, and if you don't set boundaries or establish transparency before the relationship, at least the business portion of that, then it could be like a divorce. And unfortunately, that ends with a lot of bitter settings, and that's actually what happened with two of my former best friends. I went down that road and there was a divorce and...  I'm very fortunate. I'm glad that things happened the way they did because I learned who my true friends were, and I learned who I was from all of that. It pushed me to boundaries that I didn't know existed, and it pushed me down into a place that I didn't believe I would ever be capable of getting out of. And I resurrected myself, and pushed forward, and I am so fortunate and happy to have experienced that because without being pushed into that place, I wouldn't be where I am today. 

Agata: Right, and isn’t it crazy how we choose our coping mechanism to help us recover from the situation? So, look, this all was depressing to you. You were in dark place and you were looking for answers partially in the refrigerator, right? So not only mentally you were down, but this mental condition was bringing you down physically as well. You were gaining weight and your cholesterol was up; your high blood pressure was up, and that is like vicious circle until you decide to get out of it. 

Grady: Yeah, and I was hospitalized twice with pneumonia. 

Agata: Well, the immune system, you’re depressed and you're not eating right, you immune system goes down. I do truly believe that. 

Grady: And it's just important that people when they do get into these settings—I always tell people if you feel like you're at your low, there's always a lower. OK? We don't need to go there. And you may not ever reach that point, and I hope that you don't. But if you're ever in these places where it's your low, low, and you're just not feeling right—and I tell people this all the time—I promise, just get through the moment, get through the seconds because you have no idea what may happen in 30 minutes from now. Especially one day from now, because a day later may be one of the best days of your life. 

Meg: That's absolutely true. 

Agata: But isn't it hard sometimes when you feel really, really bad and you, let's be honest, sometimes you just want to have a pity party for yourself? That’s hard too. 

Grady: Meagan and I were talking earlier today about COVID, and she had mentioned a comment yesterday that she wished that I would take it more seriously, and I have drilled it into her trying to talk my way through it, because I said to her it wasn't that I didn't take it seriously. It is a very, very serious thing. It's the fact that I don't want to dwell in that fear and feed into that beast because I have to support the business. I have so many people that depend on everything that we do. I just suppress it. 

Agata: Well, but besides that Grady, when I think you feed into this panic and this extreme fear, right? It would also affect your well-being? I have a friend currently who works in medical field, and she said she's completely depressed because of COVID, because of a responsibility working over in the medical field. You know, and she's terrified to get out and see anybody. She just locked herself in the house and it's just not good for your well-being from within. So, you gotta find a limit. Or where do you draw the line, you know? 

Meg: So, we were talking about energy vampires, right? So how do you guys feel when you come in contact with an energy vampire? Do you feel tired? Drained? 

Grady: Suffocated. 

Agata: Well, I don't think at least that's my thought. Sometimes you don't know immediately that it is an energy vampire, right? Sometimes you have those friends who constantly come to you for an advice. And no matter what you advise them, they always find the way to find the problem to the solution, ok? They don't want a solution to the problem. They’re gonna always find a problem to the solution, and this is so draining throughout the time when you talk to them and talk to them and talk to them, and you always back to the beginning because they always find negative things to say. 

Grady: How do you deal with vampires that suck your blood or your soul? 

Agata: Or energy? 

Meg: I've definitely worked on my energetic boundaries when it comes to people. I'm pretty good at reading energies, so if I feel like when I walk away from someone I don't feel as good, I might have a headache, or I just don't feel as good when I walk away. If I don't feel lifted up or in the same energy, then I pretty much know that I've allowed that. I'm not a victim, right? So, it's me allowing someone to take from me, so I just try to work on protecting myself, grounding myself, and as long as you're aware of it, I think you can control it and protect yourself from it. If you're not feeling it, say no. I used to go to every baby shower that I was invited to, and I don't like going to baby showers. Let me be real, I don't. So, I just decided to say I love you, I'll send you a gift, but I probably won't be there. 

Agata: And you know what, especially about baby showers, I don't like them either. So, anybody who invites me, they know there will be questions coming from me. Are you serving alcohol? If you are, I'm there if not, I'm mailing the gift. 

Meg: Yes, see there? And you know I seriously think that salt baths help, too. 

Grady: Don't ever ask Meagan to bring a gift to a party. She might stop off and get you a Sprite. Yeah, there's a true story behind that. 

Meg: Yeah, one time I was invited to a Thanksgiving Day party, and I decided to bring a Sprite to the party and that was all I brought. 

Agata: At least you didn't come empty handed. 

Meg: So, what actually ****** you off, Grady? 

Grady: A lot of things. You know, I don't like it when people think that they're better than you. It really bothers me, especially when they're over inflating their ego or being passive aggressive, and trying to just steal the power, because there is always a power grab with people. Even if you're having a normal conversation with someone. And if somebody thinks they're more educated than you, or— 

Meg: Like a big **** contest, like “Mine's bigger than yours” and :No, but I did that better,” and “But you listen to what I did...” Iis that what you're talking about? 

Grady: Yes. 

Agata: In a way. 

Grady: And it's not only that. It's just because people love to talk. People always think that what they do is better than everyone else for some reason, and it's because there's a genuine affection that they truly believe in themselves and that they can contribute to something and someone. And that for itself is real, but then it becomes arrogance, ego trips, and that's what burns me up. And I don't like being talked down to. And I have encountered a lot of people that are extremely educated that think that they have more education than me, and very rarely will you ever hear me talk about my education. But my education is what I took extremely seriously, and it took me a very long time to achieve all of my academic accolades. So, I just always keep that in my pocket and let them talk all they want about themselves and their education, but they can be very demeaning and that is what ****** me off. 

Meg: I bet you never got **** on by a snake.  

Grady: You're right. I didn’t. 

Agata: What ****** you off, Meagan? 

Meg: I think what ****** me off is when people try to tell me how to act and how to be when I'm just who I am, and I can only be who I am. I think a lot of people are attracted to me at the beginning because I'm me, but then— 

Agata: But then you don't give in. 

Meg: Right, but then after like I'm in a relationship with someone, sometimes they try to, like, change those things that they were attracted to when they met me. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like they don't like this or that about me, but— 

 Agata: Well, but there is a difference between trying to change your partner and the healthy amount of compromise in a relationship, you know. So, you guys are attracted. You come together and then after a while he finds, let's say, courage to say, “Well, Meagan, I really don't like when you do this or that.” So, at this point you can have, like I don't know, healthy conversation to talk about is he really trying to change me, or is this something that he's being kind enough to ask me not to do anymore because he doesn't feel good about it? But I see where you're coming from because really, honestly, from the day you were born, the entire society, including your parents, are telling you how you need to be, who you need to be, what do you need to do, how you need to look. You know? And it's hard to stay truthful too being yourself sometimes. 

Meg: Yeah, when everybody is trying to program you into how they think you should be. 

Agata: What makes me really mad is the fakeness in people, right? Because I have the tendency to not to remember your name within seconds after being introduced to you because I'm already busy reading you. Never remember, yes, not remembering your name, and I can pick up on fakeness very quick. 

Meg: Because you're reading their energy, right, Agata? 

Agata: Yes, and I literally hate when people sprinkle ******** with sugar and make it a cupcake. OK, I can't stand that stuff. 

Grady: Yes, you know talking about fakeness, I'm going to be the first one to call myself out on this, because I in my life have been fake in certain instances because I've had to be a chameleon in my particular environment. And sometimes when I don't know what to say, I will appear to be somebody that I'm not because I'm trying to gauge the environment. I'm trying to figure out where I'm at, and what's going on, and who is who. And one thing that gets my goat too, is I don't like to be asked what my occupation is when I attend events. I've been to weddings. I've been to fundraisers, and when I go out and I talk to people and my husband will tell you the same thing. Why is it that when you go out and you talk to people, what is the first thing that they generally always ask you? What do you do for work? That burns me up. 

Agata: Well, but I do that all the time. I have to admit. 

Grady: It’s nosey. 

Agata: No, it's not nosey. I'm looking for connection. Maybe you are carpenter and I need new doors. Maybe you're a bricklayer, and I want to build a fire outside. I don't think, for my, coming for me it’s not nosey. I'm always looking for a business connection especially on events and stuff like that I mean so my bad. I'm sorry. 

Grady: Not, it's not only, no, it's not that. It is that, but it's not that. When I'm sitting at a wedding, and we're talking, and they ask me, and I'm always very uncomfortable with this because what am I supposed to say? I'm CEO of a company? I'm president? That makes me sound like a highfalutin arrogant ******* and that is not who I am as a person, and I am not an arrogant ******* at work. I mean, I can be, occasionally, I'm sure someone else might say that, but what I'm saying is, when I say, well, I own my own business. You know, they're always looking for you to have some prominent—I'll give you an example. I went to a wedding of a good friend, yeah, and we were sitting at a table and everyone cannot wait to tell us what they did for work. And so, then it came around to my husband. And my husband's family has a restaurant, and he's a server in a manager at the restaurant. And they ask him what he does, and my husband is very modest, and he doesn't say I'm a manager. He says I'm a server, a waiter. They immediately cut him off, looked down at him, and started talking to somebody else. 

Agata: OK, but that's not his problem. Those are the people with the problem. You know what I mean?  

Grady: I get it. I get it, but why is it that people are interested in only what you do for a living? 

Agata: Well, that’s some of them, you have a handful of people, ******** like that, who will be, andif they turn around and start talking to somebody else, then, hey, good for Antonio. Didn't waste any more of his time. Who needs those people? 

Grady: But it made him feel like **** for the entire duration of the wedding festivities. 

Agata: But the—no, and the quick question I gotta ask you, not to push your buttons, but when you talk about you wanna call yourself out on being fakeness, Grady, is it really fakeness, or is it a certain amount of diplomacy that you do have to have in a relationship with people? 

Grady: Yeah, I think that you obviously have to have diplomacy. I just don't like saying what my occupation is because then it puts me into a different bracket, and then some people will not open up to me or other people. It's like they're trying to gain something. I don't know. It's a very tender topic. 

Meg: You don’t like judgmental people. 

Grady: No, I don't like judgmental people. 

Meg: Me neither. I mean, like, when I was a waitress, I remember this older lady she was like,  "So what are you going to do with your life?” And I thought, ***** I probably make more money than you. 

Grady: And you did. 

Meg: You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, most of the waitresses in Vegas have degrees in, like, nursing, and they're lawyers. I mean, there's a lot of people with degrees that are waitresses and waiters, so I don't understand why someone brings you a free drink, and you insult them. 

Grady:  I don't understand that either. Or they say, oh, I used to do that before I got an education. 

Meg: Yeah, oh, but you don't, you don't think I'm educated because I'm serving you a drink? 

Grady: Exactly. 

Agata: Hey, so listen. I think we just, you know, I don't know what do they say about boats? Boat doesn't sink because it is surrounded by water, boats sink when it starts taking this water in. Don't let that **** get to you. I mean you can’t be responsible for everybody who crosses your path. I get it is sometimes extremely difficult not to let it get to you, right? And it will make you angry. Will make you think. So just turn the table around as soon as you can, but it's easier said than done. 

Meg: Did you guys see the pretty bad relationship that United Airlines developed with a couple with a screaming toddler? 

Agata: Oh my God, Oh my God, I couldn't. I need a drink after I'd seen that video, unbelievable. 

Meg: Was the toddler, like, what two? 

Agata: The toddler was two, and it wasn't misbehaving, she just, she—and, actually, I got so angry because it reminded me of my granddaughter. The child just didn't wanna put a mask. The father pulled, like, almost his sweater over baby’s head, right? 

Meg: The baby wouldn't wear a mask, so they kicked him off the plane. United’s sucky anyway. 

Agata: Yeah, I believe, I hope, I hope those people's gonna get a good lawyer because at the end of the video—and they’re being very, very cordial nice—they get off the plane and the mother, she said well, can we get our bags and the car seat? And this ******* says no, it’s going to New York. So, you gotta see, she said, well, how are we supposed to travel with toddlers? 

Grady: You know, people just have to have cordiality, and I don't think that they do as often as they should, and people, especially people in business, that's another thing that gets my goat is people in business don't know how to have customer service. They lose all their customer service skills the moment that they feel that they've become successful or the moment that they're in business, they lose everything at the door.  

Meg: I feel like people just don't give a **** anymore, they're just mean to you. Like whatever happened to the customer is always right? 

Grady: That has been far gone. 

Meg: That’s not always true. 

Agata: You know what? It doesn't make me mad, but it makes me extremely sad. I feel like people are just not humble. When you have abundance of everything, if the universe was kind enough to give you abundance of everything, be grateful. Be humble. This can disappear as quick as it came. 

Grady: Oh, I promise, you will get something that grounds you in life. I do promise that the moment that you start sacrificing kindness and you start being arrogant, and not understanding. You will fall, and you will fall hard. 

Meg: That is the truth right there. That's the way the universe works. 

Agata: The name of the situation is called karma. 

Meg: And she's a *****, so watch out. 

Agata: What were you gonna get served in the karma cafe? 

Grady: I wonder if anyone has named their child karma. 

Meg: That would be awesome, I think. I'd be like, “My name’s Karma, and I’m a *****,” 

Agata: I'm sure there is.  

Meg: So, I mean, you guys, you wanted to talk about relationships as well. I mean, we've talked about a lot of different things. 

Grady: We did. We moved on so quickly. 

Meg: You've been married. You're married. 

Agata: Well, I felt like we're talking about different kind of relationships.  

Grady: Any relationship. 

Agata: You know, like, is it possible? 

Meg: If you ever want to know what not to do, you can always call me. 

Agata: Why? What you got going? 

Grady: You self-sabotage.  

Meg: I do. 

Agata: You do and let me tell you this, Meagan, that's what I was just thinking to myself last night. Knowing that we're gonna talk about relationships, right? So, you always are pretty sexually loaded in those recordings, and you always talk about— 

Grady: Things! 

Agata: Peaks and this and that. And then in reality, once I start getting to know you, you are such a spiritual, health benefits, drinking tea, connected to nature, rolling with dogs on the floor, kind of girl, you know, fuzzy socks, fluffy heads, colorful sweaters— 

Grady: Unicorn pen... 

Agata: You just, how many times did I invite you by now to my famous parties and you were like, “Nah, I'm done with drinking.” What? What? You? So what's going on? 

Grady: Yeah, party animal. 

Meg: I'm getting older, and I'm getting pretty lame. 

Grady: So, tell us about relationships. You started talking. 

Meg: I don't know. I feel like, you know, I always get in my own way, like Agata said, I self-sabotage. 

Grady: Not every single time. Let's not pretend like you've dated the most wonderful people. 

Meg: OK, so for example, like I dated this one guy who's a pretty famous rock and roller, right?  And he lived in LA, and he has this annual birthday party every year that everybody attends, sort of a big deal. I show up at the party. I'm in this cute skimpy bikini floating around the pool. You know all the who's who is there. I don't know who the **** is who, but I guess they're all there. And you know, and he's being super kind to me. All his ex-girlfriends are there. You know, it's just a big party and, you know, he was pretty nice to me, and I should have just hung out, but instead I got my own way, and I drink some tequila. and then I've had this crush on this one guy, tall, dark and handsome. He's like a singer.  I've had a crush on him for like years, right? And I get so stupid when he's around. 

Grady: The guy not throwing the party? 

Meg: Right. But he lived around that same area, so I get drunk and I call him, and tell him to come pick me up from this guy's house, And he picks me up, and he's like, this is a really nice house, like, who lives here? And I'm like, oh, you know-- 

Grady: So and so.  

Meg: And then I leave and go off with him and come back to the house later and get my car. 

Grady: You missed your opportunity. 

Meg: That's sabotaging myself. 

Agata: You did. 

Meg: I I've had a crush on this one guy for so long, right? 

Agata: The one who had the party? 

Meg: No, the one that picked me up. And it's so funny because. like, he'll always toss me a bone and I'll come out at full force. 

Grady: And bite it. 

Meg: And I bite it. And then he's like, eh, no, you know. But it's funny because-- 

Agata: Gaslighting. 

Meg: I would chase that all day. But you know what's crazy is, I think, like I sabotaged it because, like he was always on the road traveling, and we were developing a very slow-paced nice friendship, but I always have to get all crazy and-- 

Grady: I don't think it's crazy  

Meg: I do.  

Grady: I think you're just being cautious, and then you go over the deep end and then... 

Agata: But wait, wait a minute, I'm confused. So let me ask you this. When you said in this particular situation, you sabotage yourself, did you sabotage yourself because you were afraid to be 100% full time together with this guy? The rock and roller who had a nice house, and you sabotaged what this could have came? 

Meg: Yeah, but then I'm like— 

Agata: Yeah, but I feel like you— 

Meg: Who does that? Who—OK ever since I went to, like, Vegas, It's always high energy and chaos. You know what I'm saying? It's always drama, chaos. I mean, it's like I can't just be grounded. 

Grady: That's you. 

Agata: Now could it be in the different places like pull out in us different energies and we just function on different vibes? 

Grady: Well, maybe you panicked and just left. Maybe you felt out of sorts. 

Agata: No, I think she just wasn't done with the guy who she called, and she was willing to jeopardize, maybe nice future, nice relationship with this guy who really liked her. And she called him and went off with the *******, because there is many girls— 

Grady: Was it Ozzy Osborne? 

Meg: No. 

Grady: Sorry, Sharon, I love you. 

Meg: Is not really an ******* He pretty much was a nice friend taking thing slow, and he straight up told me what it is, but I get all crazy because I like it. I just have to. 

Agata: You want what you want. 

Grady: Everyone gets all crazy when they like someone. 

Agata: OK because I was about to say normally, about 80% of women like the bad boys, and there's so many women, they're older now, and they wish they could turn time back because they let some nice nerdy guy go because of a bad boy that they end up divorcing within years, and the nerdy guy who really really liked her and loved her has this big house and nice family now. 

Meg: Yeah, but I would've been bored with that nice guy in the end, too. 

Agata: Yeah, but this, what you look for in your 20s is not what you want in your 50s. And when you are with somebody from very beginning, for those people who get early on married, you grow old together you change. Only one thing, my grandma always said the only constant in your life will be change. 

Grady: Relationships and what tick us off. That's what we talked about today, and today is Christmas Eve, and we want to wish everyone a very wonderful, happy Christmas. 

Meg: But next week I'm bringing a party to our podcast. 

Grady: A big party. He's got a big personality. 

Agata: A big mountain of muscles. 

Meg: Yeah, Steve Kim, so stay tuned and thank you for listening today. You are in the grind with Meg and Grady, and thank you, Agata for being on our podcast. We love your insight. 

Agata: Thank you guys, Merry Christmas. 

Grady: Merry Christmas.