In the Grind with Meg & Grady
In the Grind with Meg & Grady
Anxiety & Depression
Meg and Grady are back to hilariously discuss some spicey topics. Meg reveals some of her stress and anxiety, and the reason for her relocation back from Las Vegas, and Grady explains his insecurity when confronted with folks from an Ivy League college.
Lindsey Paoli, a licensed marriage and family therapist and life coach join the podcast to explain her initial anxiety and the reason she sought out her profession to help those struggling to handle stress and anxiety, especially during COVID-19, as a therapist, especially during COVID-19.
Hello lovelies you precious pea pod casters. Welcome to in the grind with Meg and Grady sponsored by the records company on Megan Rhianna. And this is Grady. Merryn
Speaker 2:Megan. I got to say my own name. Okay. Sorry. Oh, this is greedy Morin. Hello? Grady. Hey Ren, 28 years. We've been together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've been best friends since grade school. As you guys know recently, I moved back to my hometown, Ripley, Ohio, rom Las Vegas, Nevada, and me and Grady just picked up where we started. It was like, no time ever went by. I'm like we never skipped a beat. Right?
Speaker 2:Well, we kind of skipped a beat. You moved across country. I know,
Speaker 1:But it was like, when we were together, there was no time in between. We just always pick up where we left off
Speaker 2:That's because we laugh at each other and I
Speaker 1:Needed you. I mean, I was devastated. Ryan came back. I was oppressed and lost because I just went through a breakup.
Speaker 2:My boyfriend. Well, which one? The one I was with for two years. Wait, the gay guy.
Speaker 1:Well, that was way long ago. That was like in my twenties.
Speaker 2:You're in your twenties. You just said you were 28. Oh yeah. I forgot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you took me to a Botox party yesterday and you helped my face.
Speaker 2:Well, Botox helped her face. I just encouraged you.
Speaker 1:You're like everything a woman wants in a man without the, you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm glad, that's glad you think so.
Speaker 1:Oh man. Well, I picked it all up. I drove away in my RV and my aunt, my cousin, my mom, my two dogs and I had a rabbit. We had to like drive all my stuff cross country. And I have like breakdowns. The entire way home was
Speaker 2:So sad. I was down afterwards to your mom sent me the video. Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That was pretty pathetic. Why does she record me when I'm having psychophysics? Anyway, you know what? I ran away from the life I had built for like eight years in the city of sin. And you know, it's hard for me to adjust and I was just heart broken. Like I couldn't sleep. I cried all the time. It was horrible. I finally had to call my doctor.
Speaker 2:Well, if I was with a tracker, man, I probably would be the same way too. I mean, he was in special ops for God's sakes. That's true. Well, we probably should. He was a narcissist. Yeah. He had some issues
Speaker 1:Anyway, that can really, really mess with your self-esteem. Well, when nothing that you do is good enough, like you can't cut an onion the right way. You can't move the right way. Like I was slowly losing myself, you know, so I needed to get away. So I'm just so thankful for my friends and my family that I have here. And like helping me get healthy and back on track. And I pretty much
Speaker 2:Had to rub an old wound, but I know where you're coming from. Because when I came out to Vegas to visit you, we were attending an expo. We met up with you. We had dinner. And the entire time you had aluminum foil in your lap that you kept chewing from. So I would assume you were trying to disappear from the moment. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I was eating weed gummies. Yeah. You know, I did that a lot because I was like, I think it was unhappy with, you know, my life and I couldn't figure out why. And I think the problem was like my relationship. So I think I was trying to deal with not feeling anything. So I would just eat wheat gummies. Like they were candy. Y eah. You couldn't eat enough. Well, I had so much anxiety a nd depression. I needed an escape, I guess. And also like I went through a time where I just slept all day.
Speaker 2:I know. But there was that time that I died laughing. When you told me that you were in an airport, can you tell us that? Oh, my embarrassing story. Yeah. The most humorous story.
Speaker 3:Yeah. One time like, um, this guy gave me these free pants. They were like sweat pants. And he gave me this top. He was a designer. I think he came in from a convention into Vegas and he was like, Hey, here's a free outfit. I'm like, cool. You know, and I wore this free outfit through the airport and now I know why it was free because as I'm walking through the airport, I have a lime green thumb, by the way, let's not forget that part. I'm walking through the airport. I sit down at my gate and I feel something so cold on my. So I it's so cold that I pop up in this guy across from me. He just starts rolling on the floor, laughing at me. And, and I thought, you. Like you didn't even tell me that I had a hole in my pants while I looked back. And the whole in was just ripped. Like my whole had been hanging out the whole way through the airport and everybody could see my lime green thong. And I just thought that was really rude. Like next time you see someone with their thong hanging out with them. No, I h ad t o t ake that sweater off and put it around my waist and wear it li ke that. The entire time I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 2:He got a lot of pictures. He wasn't embarrassed. Well, the question I have for you is how did you not fill? You're asking me,
Speaker 3:You know, I don't know. You know, I don't feel a lot of things. Like one time I had all the cocktail waitresses at the casino looking for my phone and one of my friends, her boyfriend was trying to track it and everything, you know, and he kept saying, it's in the building, it's in the building. And like, we were blaming it on like the lady that cleaned the bathroom and all this. Right. And come to find out it was in my b rawl the whole time. And we h ave looked for it for like an hour. And I d idn't k now i t, my friends w ere like, you d idn't
Speaker 2:One touching your breasts. And I don't even fake. And I can't
Speaker 1:Feel
Speaker 3:That's up.
Speaker 2:Well, it reminds me of one time when I was in Hawaii and I thought I would be super sporty and fun. We went to the North shore, which is on the other side of the Island in Hawaii. Yeah. Okay. And I wanted to act like I was professional diver. So I climbed up this mountain. It was very tall and I'm petrified of Heights. I jumped off. And of course, as I'm jumping off, my body turns over and I belly flop in the ocean. And what I didn't realize is when I, after I belly flopped and I went down and it hurt, I mean, it hurt like a mother that hurt your penis. It hurt everything. Let me tell you, it's just like a rubber band snap, my entire body. But that, wasn't the funny part. Ouch. The funny part was is that when I swam ashore and everybody's like swimming toward me asking me if I'm okay and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm great. And I'm being very macho. I swim up. There's these kids on the beach and I get up and I'm walking and I'm like holding my head up high. I'm going straight to the car. I'm not worried about anyone talking to me or anything else at this point because I probably need to cry. And then I see this lady screaming and she's running over with a towel and she covers me up. And I'm like, what happened? Apparently the only thing that was left of my shorts was the scenes of all.
Speaker 3:He used to be attached. Oh my God. Oh Lord. So everybody got a show for free.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know if it was much of one, but uh, I didn't go back there after that first.
Speaker 3:You got paid for that.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm not as stripper. Didn't you strip once?
Speaker 1:Uh, no. I was a go-go dancer though. Isn't it? The same? Good, good dancer. Doesn't take off their clothes. They're just for entertainment purposes. They usually have on a cute outfit and they dance. It's like getting paid to exercise.
Speaker 2:Well, the holidays are coming up. Maybe we'll talk about my stripping days. No, that's why I kind of tried to move on, but Christmas is coming up.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The holidays are bright. Like around the corner.
Speaker 2:A lot of people get kind of depressed, anxious around the holidays.
Speaker 1:You know what guys we've been through a lot this year. I mean, it's been, COVID-19, we've been in quarantine. A lot of people have lost their jobs. You know, money's not flowing the way it used to. Don't beat yourself up. Don't like give in to all the commercialized stuff that you see on TV or on the radio. Like it's the simple things it's decorating a tree, enjoying the people you're with looking at your Christmas lights, baking cookies, putting icing on them, making Garlin out of popcorn, things like that. Baking and giving
Speaker 3:To other people. You could bake a meal.
Speaker 2:Tell me about the most exciting thing that you did for Christmas once. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:One of the most memorable things, um, is when I was in Vegas, my roommate and her mother, they were like, Hey, do you want to come with us and go Christmas Carol for this orphanage? And I was like, Oh my God. Yeah. That sounds amazing because these kids don't have anybody. Like what a great idea. So we took this huge like bag, like we were Santa Claus, you know, took a big old Santa Claus bag full of candy. Oh, we don't know what that is. It's like a big garbage bag. And it's like nicer than a garbage
Speaker 2:Bag. Kind of what you moved back home in,
Speaker 3:Except you got a Mercedes RV[inaudible] and then we show up and like we sang Christmas carols to these kids and their eyes lit up and it was just so amazing. And you know, those are the things that matter. I mean, when it all boils down to everything like, and doing crafts with your kids, you can make ornaments to hang on the tree. You don't have to buy ornaments. Like you got stuff around your house, get creative.
Speaker 2:So tell me the most hilarious holiday you've had the most hilarious. Yeah. You just told us about the lime green thong. I mean, you had another time where you were wearing flip flops and fell down the stairs that Citibank in front of CEO allowed to talk about bad things on here. Well, just keep it somewhat censored.
Speaker 3:Okay. So one time it was a holiday and I got all dressed up, you know, am I boring? You you're flipping through your phone doing over there. So I, I am. Um, so I, I got all dressed up and, you know, got put on some cute little outfit. What do you know about pastries? Do you wear a pasting? So, and you know, but my mans and like crown Royal stuff like that, bought him some little toys, you know, having fun time. That's that was his Christmas gift. Oh, like a fun party. Yeah. And then when I took like this, and then I had these like popsicles that were like the colors of Christmas, I like kind of wanted to show off. Right. I wanted to like show him like how deep I could put the Popsicle, broke i t, my throat. Okay. And I started to g ag. I was, I had h im wait for it to melt. I had to wait for it. Do you know? Horrible that i t surprised her alive. I know I c ould h ave died in that. And that's why, a nd a t my funeral you would have had to be like, this is my best friend, Megan. She died because s he had a Popsicle stuck down o ur throat because she was like, that's embarrassing. Like we w ould h ave had to put in the obituary. Why? Oh Lord. Yeah. That was bad. Grady. How was your Christmas when you were,
Speaker 2:You know, I use my mind a lot when I was younger. We didn't have a lot of money. I came from very small town.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You were like from the hillbilly area like me. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Uh, we didn't have much to play with except your toys. And,
Speaker 3:And then
Speaker 2:We didn't have a lot of things. And so I had to use my mind. I think you can learn so much from kids. They are super creative, but the most audacious story is that for Christmas, I imagined that I was Santa Claus and I was trying to deliver presents to my neighbors except I was stealing my mother's figurines and delivering them.
Speaker 3:Oh, I remember when you gave me her ceramic owl. I loved it. Oh my God. That was sweet.
Speaker 2:I had an interesting mom. She had her belly button pierced. And I remember you asking her about that one time.
Speaker 3:I got my belly button pierced because of that. I still have it pierced. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean, but I have nothing in comparison to, to your story.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Don't try that at home kids, please do not just the stupidest thing I've ever tried to do anyway.
Speaker 2:Wait, tell me another stupid thing. You've tried to do
Speaker 3:One time. I was pinging outside and I was like squatting and I fell backwards. And guess where the P wet another stupid thing I've done? Hmm. Oh, one time I was drunk in Australia and I was like partying with all these people. And uh, I think I made all the women take off their pants or no, I made all the men take off their pants and give us their boxers. And we put on everybody's boxers. And we started swimming in this pool, in this really nice fancy club. And we started riding around on one of those swans, you know, there's blow ups. And I had my heels on the whole time. And like this place was super nice and we were acting like we were from like Adams County. I don't know Brown County. Like we were acting fools. And then I was so wet and I only had like a towel wrapped around me i n my boyfriend's cowboy boots. And I was walking down the streets of Australia trying to get a cab to pick me up and nobody would pick me up because I was soaking wet and I had no clothes on at that time. W ell, you would
Speaker 2:Think that they would pick you up just for that reason. I had
Speaker 3:No clothes on and I had cowboy boots on that were like way too big for me. And nobody would pick me up. They thought I was crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know why they would think.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, being depressed is no joke Grady.
Speaker 2:No, it's definitely not, but it is fun to laugh so that you don't find yourself being too depressed. And I know the holidays are kind of a depressing time for some, because we've lost some. And that's when we remember them the most when they're not here. But in order to get out of those things, you just have to keep pushing forward, keep yourself positive. And I think we have a guest coming on. Do we not? We
Speaker 1:Do. Her name is Lindsay Paoli and she is a master's level therapist and life coach pursuing dual licenses and marriage and family therapy and clinical professional counseling. She has a master's degree in marriage and family therapy and work systematically treating families, couples, and individuals. She is the founder of fundamental health. Her specialty has been to treat anxiety and depression with preventative holistic and functional approach. She guides clients to healthier mental lifestyles by encouraging habit hacking and incorporating her coin, mind fundamentals into daily routine movement, intention, nourishment, deep connections. You can read more about how she lives in models, a comprehensive, healthy lifestyle at www dot Lindsay. That's L I N D S E Y Paoli that's capital P a O L i.com. So I'm going to reach out to Lindsay and see if she can help us answer some questions about anxiety and depression and see what insight she has for us since she's an expert.
Speaker 4:How are you? Good long time. No, see, no seriously. Where do you live now, Ohio? Oh, no, your son there. Yeah, it's cold. How's Las Vegas. It's cold, but it's Las Vegas cold. It's like 62 and I'm miserable.
Speaker 1:I'm happy that you're willing to talk to us today. We've been talking about anxiety and depression and I wanted to reach out to you since you're an expert and ask you a few questions. Like, do you see more clients around the holidays or during this time during coronavirus?
Speaker 4:Um, during coronavirus, for sure. So I actually am newly practicing graduated last March with my master's degree in marriage and family therapy. And right now I'm in, what's considered our internship hours. Each key is different, but, um, we're required 3000 hours of licensure, almost like a doctor's residency. So I haven't been in there for long enough really. You know, I'll have more clients during this season. Crazy though. Gosh, I was still trying to build my practice at this time last year. But yeah, compared to last year, it's been a busy couple of weeks. I'll leave it at that. I do prior races, clients being in crisis over the holidays. Definitely. What are the common
Speaker 1:Symptoms of anxiety and depression?
Speaker 4:So, um, it, it can manifest physically in your body as well as in the way that you think so anxiety can vary from like where you think thoughts and ability to sleep. Um, inability to focus a lot of like negative thoughts or really fearful thoughts kind of like infiltrating your day to day life, but it can also manifest very physically. And I don't think people understand that section. So you can have really digestive problems even like tension in your neck and back and chest. A lot of people describe that they know the onset of their anxiety is coming by really shallow or short breathing and that causes dizziness. So there's a lot of different symptoms and you'd be surprised how easily you're able to adapt. And most of us live with some form of anxiety on a day-to-day basis. And, um, it's all normalized in our society and has become a part of the culture earliest in meme culture online, where it's all been normalized to the point of for forgetting to take care of it, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I feel like there's so many people with these issues. Do you know if it's like environmental or genetic or what causes it, is it just experience day-to-day life or
Speaker 4:It's definitely both. I'm definitely a big believer that anxiety is influenced by both nature and nurture, right? So some of it can be, um, brain chemistry, right? So for a long time, we've stated anxiety solely with medication. Um, and I think that we're starting to steer a little more holistically and away from that and using it less as the primary response in my practice anyways, as definitely only use medication as a last resort, but brain chemistry is part of it. But green from the States affected by so much of what we're in control of. So, sorry, my practice, um, I feel a lot of women. And so they'll describe their mothers as being brains or their grandmothers as being very anxious. So a lot of these behaviors and patterns are passed down from generation to generation. And it's just the typical way that we're taught to respond to certain things that are not necessarily healthy. And then just do become like maladaptive bad habits that you don't know how to shake because there's all this ever been modeled for you. And you get kind of caught in this cycle of not knowing how to pull yourself out of it. And so that's why having an unbiased third party to kind of costume you in the app and start noticing those patterns that you don't even know that you're in because it's your norm. Um, and then start challenging some, create new patterns and healthier ways of living, um, are able to change it just as much as meditation, if not more and, um, change your brain chemistry longterm even. So it's almost more impactful. And for a longer it's like, I feel like that's getting to the root cause of the anxiety is identifying a lot of those patterns.
Speaker 1:So you actually help people create new patterns, like techniques that they can use. And you recommend that before medication medication is the last resort
Speaker 4:In my practice. That's not how everybody feels. I think, like I said, I think the medical community and the mental health community is starting to go in that direction. That's not to say that medicine does not have a place in the mental health field because that's not true. Um, there are definitely times, well, there are a lot of diagnoses. First of all, where without medication management, you're going to get very little results just through talk therapy. But there are instances too, especially in the world of anxiety and depression, where I feel like taking note of those patterns and behaviors can be really helpful. Um, either in conjunction with, or without medication only relying on medication when things are so severe that you're not able to make any change within your day-to-day habits.
Speaker 1:How do people get help if they're suffering from these symptoms, I let them know your website. Is there anything that you recommend?
Speaker 4:I do. I'm a huge advocate. Obviously I'm biased as a therapist, but for the world of therapy, um, we didn't talk about my backstory at all, but the reason I actually became a therapist is I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression at 18 and I was not having it. Like I was not going to talk about it. I was referred to a therapist. I referred medication, very brief ticket, decided I didn't like it. I went to like one or two therapist that I hated. I walked out of one session literally within five minutes. And I just know that there's so much of a stigma around the therapy process that, um, I'm really working to overcome that as a therapist. Now who's been 12 years later after battling symptoms and depression of depression and anxiety on my own and it not working. I'm a new job. You think for finding a therapist as a good fit for you and potentially a doctor or a psychiatrist to be able to prescribe your medication needs. If that's something that you're looking forward to while keeping in mind your beliefs and your goals for your minimization of your symptoms is finding the professionals that are right for you. Um, I think is crucial and being able to alleviate the symptoms of anxiety. And so the number one place that I recommend people to start searching for a therapist, because like, what do you do? You just go into Google and you're like, I need a therapist, but I want to like them. So I always say to go to psychology today.com and you're able to search directly within your area there. Um, the providers in your area will have like a little blurb about them, even like pictures of their office. I think that finding a therapist that you click with, well, studies show that 85% of the effectiveness of therapy relies on your therapeutic Alliance with your therapist. If you walk into a session and don't like your therapist, you're not going to do good work. So I think going through psychology today and finding a therapist that you feel that connection with, and then even having a phone call with them, she said, well, rather than scheduling through their website, you can tell through a few minutes on the phone and be like, you're not right. Yeah,
Speaker 1:No, I feel like I want to talk to you all day. Maybe I should Skype.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you said psychology today. Dot com. That's where you can look. And I gave you guys the website where you can actually log on to Lindsay's website and you can talk to her. And how do you usually do appointments? Do you do them over the phone or do they have to come in person? Like how do you,
Speaker 4:So everything has really changed with the world of global pandemic. I think for a long time, the world of therapy has thought that therapy has to be done. In-person, it's so important to like read the energy of the room and just be able to connect with somebody and people who were doing online therapy were almost seen as like quacks and people who were like scamming people for money within the profession. And this is within my small world, but this actually, and I don't want to speak for everybody, but it was almost like looked down upon to do virtual therapy. And that was really unfortunate because we're a world that lives online, you know, like we're in a society that lives on social media and we do all of our work via email. And so I felt like therapy was kind of getting left behind in that process. So I really think it's been a really great change that sort of virus forced us all to go into quarantine and lockdown and pivot and learn how to do things differently. And all of the therapists who have now made the change to being virtual have realized that we actually are able to connect. I mean, our schools have even learned, like it's not ideal, but that we can do things differently. We can do things from home. Employers are learning. We can be working from home. So currently, and I mean, this will continue changing. I'm sure as Corona numbers and regulations continue to change currently, I'm seeing clients both in-person or virtually. Um, but I really leave it up to the clients, but a lot of therapists are available for the virtual process. Now, if that's something that you're interested in, that's beautiful. I love that. Um, so as therapists, we're licensed, as I said earlier, from state to state, so we can not practice. Like for instance, you said, how do I call you and schedule a therapy session? Because I'm not licensed in the state of Ohio where you're a resident, you and I wouldn't be able to do therapies together. So you would have to find, I know you'd have to find a therapist in your area, but that's also why on my website, I'm starting to branch into coaching, not mental health coaching, but just more self-help type direction. Um, with anxiety and depression, I would definitely recommend a therapist over a coach though. There are anxiety coaches out there. Um, but if you see on my website coaching, that's why I'm able to help people outside of, I'm not limited as to just Nevada in that class would be there. Okay.
Speaker 1:You've dropped so many nuggets today and I feel a lot more knowledgeable and I really appreciate you coming on here and talking to us today and helping us. And I think that you've given us all the, we need great. Thanks so much. Oh, thank you, Lindsay. I hope you have a beautiful day.
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Speaker 2:When I was a kid, I didn't have enough money for glasses. My parents were having a pretty tough time. We lived in Albuquerque, New Mexico and Christmas actually was a pretty sad time for me that year. I didn't have any family and I just wanted to come back to Ohio and I used to get beat up every day. They used to take my lunch money. So for Christmas, I didn't have glasses. And I remember that the lion's club got me glasses. If you remember, from our first episode, I told you that I had these like bottle cap glasses, or you mentioned it and we didn't have the money to buy new ones.
Speaker 1:Well, I lost my glasses all the time and I think the bus ran over them one day and I was, listen, I remember getting in trouble with you because you were a boy. I was a girl and I was probably turned around talking. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then we were down on the floor looking for the glasses because I think you dropped my glasses in the floor, in the classroom. And both of us were blinded than a bat.
Speaker 1:Like we would share the same pair of glasses to look at the chalkboard. We couldn't see. And we were all the way in the back.
Speaker 2:And the teacher snapped at us because she thought we were doing something less than holier than thou
Speaker 1:Speaking of holes. So like I used to, I used to look through Ritz crackers. Oh, this is what I see. I have a genius. I'm not, you know, my mom always said it was, you know, it's okay if you're pretty, you know, cause you know, at least you're pretty. Cause I'd be like, mom, I'm so stupid. She'd be like, well at least you're pretty. And I'm like,, but you know what? I was smart too, because I figured out at an early age that I could look through a Ritz Cracker and I could see perfectly like 20, 20 vision. If you looked at this tiny little holes, you can see perfectly. And then when I was older, like I went into this like store called early grounded and they were selling these glasses with tiny little Ritz Cracker holes. And it was like, this is how you strengthen your, just wear these for like an hour a day. Yadda. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yada, yada. And I'm like, dude, I should have thought of this because I've been looking at a Cracker holes my whole life.
Speaker 2:I would pay money. If I could see you put on Ritz crackers and go to work,
Speaker 3:You know what, but you know, everyone in this room
Speaker 1:World's important and we all have special gifts to bring into this world. So you have so many, you're just like every thing a woman would want in a man. Oh, you always lift women up. You empower us. You have a lot of women around you Grady.
Speaker 2:I do. And I'm very thankful for that. You give us confidence. They make our successful company more successful
Speaker 1:Me through school. He's making me be smart. G
Speaker 2:That's a great step for you. Didn't you drop out?
Speaker 1:Um, well you see, but like college, but I went to art school and I got a degree. You got a degree. Yeah. It didn't require math. So, you know, I did it, but I was so scared of public speaking. And then when I had to get a degree in photography, I had to take two waitresses.
Speaker 2:Then you model, how the hell are you afraid of public speaking?
Speaker 1:You know, it's crazy. I can act and model all day or dance in front of hundreds of people that doesn't bother me. But if you're like her without clothes
Speaker 3:Either. And then, you know, if you're like, Hey Megan,
Speaker 1:Oh, you go on that table and dance in front of a million people naked. I'd be like, yeah, sure. Have you done that? No, but I would, if I got paid enough,
Speaker 3:Um, what don't get any ideas
Speaker 1:Like I had to get up and like talk to a class at Harvard like you did. I would, my pants. Well,
Speaker 2:I think I was pooping in my pants.
Speaker 1:Really? How did you get through that?
Speaker 2:No, it was kinda tough. Um, um, with a lot of people that are in very intimidating and I always saw them as being super successful and I didn't know it until afterwards, but they found me, which I found to be ironic and ridiculous, equally intimidating. So
Speaker 1:We are always our own worst enemy. Like I think our brains naturally are always fighting it like with these negative thoughts or you're always thinking, what are they thinking about me? Am I not good enough? These are the thoughts that cause anxiety and depression. You just need to learn how to love yourself, you know, but we do need to wrap this up, like a gift Christmas gift because you know, we're coming to the end of our show. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is depressing. But the upbeat part of that is we have a show coming up next week
Speaker 1:And it's going to be about dot, dot, dot. It may be a surprise. Yeah. A surprise gift show.
Speaker 2:I don't like saying what our next topic is. We always come up with some harebrained idea to have a new topic.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I didn't mean to interrupt you Grady. Sorry. I'm so rude.
Speaker 2:Well, apparently I'm rude all the time, but I don't try to be.
Speaker 1:But lovelies, you just keep being the fat that you are. We love you. We are here for, we are all in this together. Let's make the world a better place by starting with healing ourselves. Because right now the planet needs to heal and n eeds some care, just like all of us.
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